Friday, October 2, 2009

A Remarkable Writer is My Guest Today

 

"It became a ritual: once a week. I would shave my head smooth of the nubs that had started to erupt, then carefully, with a wet washcloth, apply a circle of mammals, amphibians, butterflies, or sometimes flowers. The ring of flora and fauna lightened up the chemo for the kids and me, and took the bald edge off my life. Once, as I lifted a bag of groceries, a woman called out, "Hey, I like your fishies."
~Caryn Mirriam-Goldberg, The Sky Begins at Your Feet




Please welcome my very special guest, Caryn Mirriam-Goldberg, a gifted author and one awakened woman! She is visiting us today through her WOW-Women on Writing blog tour.

She fits the bill for this blog—she is calm, clear, and wise—despite the fact that (or perhaps as a result of it) she has journeyed through a life-threatening illness, breast cancer. Her new book The Sky Begins at Your Feet is remarkable and has all the elements of a great read.  Poetic, funny, gut-wrenching, and hope-filled. If you are someone who has traveled through cancer, has friends who have, or you just enjoy a marvelous memoir, this book is for you. I am truly loving this book.

Caryn's approach to her spiritual life and her healing journey is interspiritual, which, as you know is something I am passionate about. I hope you will enjoy this enlightening interview I did with her recently.

Make a comment on Friday or Saturday and you'll be eligible to win a copy of her book. Enjoy!

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Caryn, I must ask first of all, how are you feeling these days? Are you well?

CMG: I'm very healthy and well these days. Thanks for asking.

Your healing journey was truly an interspiritual one. Can you tell us more about that?

CMG: I think whenever life gives us challenges, and life surely will, the more we can face them and see what we have to learn from the challenges, the more we can follow our own spirit. For me, I found facing that old fear of death both a surprise and a relief. For the first time in my life, I didn't feel terrified of dying (at least not for a moment or two), and I also felt more freed up to live fully. I also found a kind of peripheral vision that opened up for me through cancer, and yet the kind of vision -- of seeing and feeling the beauty, wonder, mystery all around -- I've been cultivating as a writer for years. Often I would land on the question of how to live. What does it mean to live fully knowing the preciousness of life? Occasionally, I would find answers to that question in connecting with the land, sky, community, family and my husband (not to mention my cats), and just as often I would find, and still find, distractions from that feeling of being fully awake. This is all to say that my healing journey showed me so much more about opening my eyes, remembering what matters and aiming toward love, but that I'm very prone to make mistakes, forget about the big picture and drive myself crazy with little things.

At times, you are very lighthearted and use humor to tell your story about dealing with cancer. I especially loved how you used removable tattoos to decorate your head during chemotherapy! Can you tell our readers why humor was/is so important to you?

CMG: Humor has always been important to me, and it's a great way to move through some hard times. It was also very helpful to lighten up the intensity of it all for my children, who were pretty young during my chemotherapy. I know that sometimes humor can be used to deny what we're going through, and yet we all need to do that at times too, but often I find humor helps me just relax into living with what is.

As an environmental activist, you state in your book that you began to have an understanding of how your body was its own ecosystem. Can you say more about this?

CMG: I think all our bodies are their own ecosystems, and all our bodies are also our most local home on the earth. This is where we live: in our changing, aging, moving or sleeping, laughing or watching bodies. It's also clear to me, and becoming clearer in a great deal of research being done these days, that the rise of cancer is directly related to environmental toxins. Statistics now say one in three of us will be diagnosed with some form of cancer, which is crazy and unacceptable, but it's also what's happening. While I applaud all the funding going into research for how to treat cancer, I would like to see more research go into preventing cancer. All that said, what this reality shows us is that what we do the earth, we also do to our bodies. On the other hand, one of the biggest sources of my own healing was connecting more with the earth in simple ways: sitting in a chair on the deck and watching the birds, or talking a walk, or just remembering to look at the trees and sky. All of this also helped me make better friends with my own body. By seeing my body as a part of the earth, I saw how the changes I was experiencing were also pathway for me to come home to myself, to forgive my imperfections and learn to love being in this flawed but still amazing body (as all our bodies are flawed and still amazing).

It is evident throughout your book that you treat yourself with gentleness and compassion. Why is this important for our life (and healing) journeys?

CMG: There is no other path toward healing that I can imagine. If and when I blamed myself for cancer, I was stuck in hurting myself more, not moving toward healing. I try to continually meet myself with both curiosity and compassion, which tends to open up whatever I'm going through to show me greater possibilities for living with meaning. My work as a teacher and a facilitator of writing groups is all about this too: the whole creative process is dependent on meeting what you begin to create with curiosity and compassion. The more we can look at what we're thinking, or what we're creating, with an inquisitive attitude and also some tenderness, the more we can find peace in our lives and create art, writing, dance, music, etc. that enhances our lives.

Caryn, what do you think was the biggest lesson you gleaned from this time in your life?

CMG: I learned a lot about slowing down and making self-care a priority. In fact, many times, I think of my self-care as a part-time job: I need to take time to eat what helps and doesn't hurt my body (not that I don't fail at this often), walk and do yoga, relax and stare at the ceiling, watch movies with my kids and husband, read magazines with the cat on my lap. This is part of how I find health, and if I don't take this time, illness seems to come to me with a vengeance. Yet I also realized that what is self-care for one person may not be self-care for another, and what is an act of health one moment could be detrimental another. It's up to each of us to find the balance, and we can best find that balance by listening deeply to ourselves, especially what our bodies are telling us all the time.

In your view, how is writing connected to healing? And what role did writing play in YOUR healing journey? 

CMG: Writing helped me two ways. First, it was enormously illuminating to simply put on paper what I was going through to better understand that it was just a story I was passing through, not a permanent state, and also to sort out what was happening and how I felt about it. Second, it's very powerful to share our stories with others. I gave my oncologist pages of my writing each time I went in for another chemo infusion. With my permission, he made this part of my medical chart and encouraged nurses and others to read these pages to see what a patient goes through, and how chemo affects one person's days, dreams, attitude, health and hope. Being witnessed -- seen as we truly are and in light of what we're really going through -- is always a healing act. It helps us feel whole. I've also found this is very true in all the writing workshops I do for people living with cancer and chronic illness. They find great strength in sharing their stories and poems, and in listening deeply to one another.

Can you explain the concept of "Tikkum Olam" to us and how your book can contribute to that?

CMG: Tikkum Olam is the Jewish tradition of putting back together the broken world. I see this as the calling for all of us. There's enormous and overwhelming pain, illness, heartbreak, poverty, war, injustice all around, and yet we can pick up some tiny piece and find a way to put it into place. For me, this comes through a lot of the teaching I do, especially at Goddard College where I founded Transformative Language Arts -- a master's program focused on using writing, storytelling, drama and more to build communities, cultivate health and healing, deepen spiritual journeys, and change the world. By creating possibilities for people to tell and hear their own stories -- aloud or on the page -- we weave back together the world just a little (see www.goddard.edu for more information). I think of my students who lead writing workshops for at-risk teens, storytelling groups for elders in nursing homes, or collaborative theater projects for low-income people living in public housing, and I see the world being repaired in small and yet life-giving ways that keep on giving.

Caryn Mirriam-Goldberg is the Poet Laureate of Kansas and the author of ten books, including the recent memoir, THE SKY BEGINS AT YOUR FEET, and her fourth collection of poetry, LANDED. She founded Transformative Language Arts at Goddard College where she teaches, a master's program that educates people on social and personal transformation through the spoken, written and sung word. She facilitates writing workshops widely, and with singer Kelley Hunt, co-writes songs and co-leads writing and singing retreats. www.CarynMirriamGoldberg.com. Her new book is available at amazon.com. Visit Caryn's blog; www.CarynMirriamGoldberg.wordpress.com.

16 comments:

Joanne October 2, 2009 9:18 AM  

Good morning Caryn & Jan! There is so much to be absorbed in this dialogue today, but what struck me the most, Caryn, was the biggest lesson you learned from your illness. Yes, self-care is a part-time job, and a great one. It seems that if we are in a tended place spiritually and physically, we are better able to tune in and focus outward on the beauty around us, in family, nature, words. That bit of time we take for ourselves reaps many rewards.

Jan October 2, 2009 9:24 AM  

Good morning, Caryn. Welcome!

And good morning to you, too, Joanne. I heartily agree. Self-care is key to it all. I am one of those folks who had to learn that lesson the hard way. In time, when self-care became a priority, my mind and heart opened up, my world became clearer. In tune, focused, as you say. What a difference! From all your writing, I've sensed for a while now that self-care is a priority in your life, as well.

Julie G October 2, 2009 10:58 AM  

Thank you so much, Jan, for bringing Caryn here to share her story.

Caryn, your words here have moved me to tears. I am wife and mother of two boys. My older boy was born with some paralysis on his left side. My life as a mother has mostly been in care of my family and self-care has been at the bottom of my to-do list for a long time. Your strength and determination inspires me..."to forgive my imperfections and learn to love being in this flawed but still amazing body".

I love the fact that you not only tended to your own body and it's healing but how you are teaching others to come to know themselves, to accept their bodies and teach them healing.

I am a hospital pharmacist and I have worked in our cancer center. When I prepared and delivered the chemo to the patients, I would sit and listen to their stories. I was the one "witnessing them, seeing them as they truly are in light of what they are going through...it WAS a healing act" for ME. and I'm the healthy one. Through thier experiences (though not written in their progress notes) I was learning "to live fully knowing the preciousness of life".

Your journey is amazing and you are truly a gift and a Blessing to us all. Thank you for sharing here.

sema October 2, 2009 12:59 PM  

Thank you Jan and Caryn for the powerful lesson today. I am guilty of pushing self-care to backburner. I hope to take more concrete steps towards my health.
thanks once again,
Blessings,
sema

Jan October 2, 2009 3:11 PM  

Julie,
Your words for Karen are so lovely and appreciated. What a gift YOU offer to others, especially to cancer patients, by receiving their stories. I am glad to hear that Caryn inspired you to engage in greater self care. :-)

Sema,
Thanks for sharing your challenge with self-care, too. May you find those ways so that optimum health can be yours. Blessings!

Nadia - Happy Lotus October 2, 2009 5:00 PM  

Hi Caryn and Jan,

Thank you so much for sharing your story with all of us. My mother died from terminal cancer and I was her caregiver during her six month battle. It was an experience that I cherish.

I always tell people that my mother gave me many gifts in life but those six months and being with her as she passed, were the greatest gifts. Sounds ironic but the whole experience taught me the beauty of being alive and the importance that comes with being here.

I am so happy for you, Caryn, that you beat cancer and learned from it. You took a lemon and really made it into a lemon creme pie in your own way. May more people learn from your story.

jchristin October 2, 2009 6:03 PM  

Caryn,

I love the title of your book, and will use that as an affirmation this week--the sky begins at your feet! Love that.

You definitely faced your biggest challenge with grace, humor, and love--what an inspirational example for all of us regardless of what we face.

Gentleness and compassion are probably gifts we tend to use often with others and give away effortlessly; yet rarely as women in our current culture do we see the importance of cherishing some of these gifts ourselves. You are a shining star, thank you for sharing your story; for allowing your healing to inspire others to heal in their own lives:)

twila October 2, 2009 7:38 PM  

I was fascinated to read about Tikkum Olam. I'd never heard this term before. What a lovely idea! And so do-able. The state of the world can be overwhelming, but each of us can pick up one tiny piece and put it back in place. Lovely. And inspiring.

Caryn Mirriam-Goldberg October 2, 2009 11:04 PM  

Hello everyone,

Thank you so much for your words, which moved me to tears. Joanne, yes, self-care is a job, and believe me, I still and constantly work on finding the balance, but I agree that the time we take "reaps many rewards." Jan, I also had to learn the self-care lesson the hard way, and it does make the world clearer. Julie, I was so touched by your story and your struggle. I also believe that most of the people I met who work in or with oncology are there because of a deep and strong calling, and it's clear that you held the light for many by simply taking the time to really listen. Sema, thanks for writing, and truth be told, I've been pushing it too hard lately too (I'm actually writing this from a hotel room in the middle of a trip with my family), and as I said earlier, it's a continual struggle, a little like carrying a very full cup of water while running uphill in a strong wind. Nadia, I'm sorry about the loss of your mom, and it's beautiful that you found so much life in being there and caring for her. Surely, it was one of the greatest gifts of her life too. Jchristian, the title comes from a quote by Anne Herbert, and I always loved that quote because of the possibilities it opens up for us. Thank you for your beautiful words. And Twila, I love the concept of Tikkun Olam too -- to know that just helping to repair some small piece of the world -- whether it's resting when I'm exhausted or helping my daughter fill out a college application so she can pursue her dreams seems to me to be a kind of small repair in the torn fabric of this world. Of course, I also value more traditional forms of activism too.

Thanks again to everyone who wrote. You surely made my day. Wishing everyone love and light,
Caryn

Gayle October 3, 2009 12:31 PM  

I have believed that cancer is caused by our environment for quite a long time. My aunt and her best friend went to California in the 1950's to become stewardesses, as they were called at the time. Both died young of cancer. Her friend had a twin sister who died about a year ago. Thank you for sharing your story and affirming the power of writing and self-care. I'm going to make both a priority.

Jan October 3, 2009 1:39 PM  

Nadia,
I am so sorry to hear of your loss but heartened to learn of your joy and appreciation about journeying with her in this way. I understand. I journeyed with my father through cancer--6 years--until he died, as well. It was a profound, life changing, life-affirming walk...
Blessings to you!

Joy,
Lovely thoughts. I agree that, as women, it is vitally important that we tend to ourselves as well as we tend to others. May compassion prevail!

Twila,
I do love this notion too. It brings empowerment as well as inner peace...

Gayle,
I wonder about this too, how much of our cancer increase (as Caryn, says one in three) is due to our environment, including the food we eat, and more. Though Caryn's family carried this particular cancer gene--it is one that science feels is definitely passed down. We can all make strides to live more consciously...

Karyn,
Thank you so much for these beautiful comments and for affirming everyone here. You are such a wise and gentle presence. I hope that you have a lovely vacation with your family. Take good care of you. Believe, breathe, and be well!

Jannie Funster October 3, 2009 9:12 PM  

Jan, what a find in Caryn to share with us! Thank you.

I love how sharing the written word is is healing to all souls, whether it be with just one other person or a large group.

I too agree with Twila that all of us doing our own sweet little parts can fulfill the "Tikkum Olam."

Bravo to both of you for this article.

And Caryn -- I totally stare at the ceiling too for relaxation, glad to hear I'm not the only one. :)

todayandeveryday October 3, 2009 9:37 PM  

As a massage therapist, I am always trying to find subtle ways to help direct people to make "self care" a priority in their everyday lives. I was so happy to read your response to the "biggest lesson" being self care as a part time job. Your life is YOUR journey and if you don't direct it, who will? thank you for this marvelous interview and thank you to Caryn for such superb character and compassion in sharing a part of herself with others.
Much Peace and Love to you both,
Dawn

Megan "JoyGirl!" Bord October 4, 2009 7:25 AM  

Every time I read an incredible story of survival, love and gentleness like what Caryn shared, it moves me in ways I cannot describe.

I often take my body for granted. I ridicule myself for not fitting some perfect mold of how my body should be. And then I'm stopped by people like Caryn who remind me that this body -- this life -- is a gift.

I loved what Caryn said about humor, too. My family has used humor since I was born to both distract and lighten ourselves from bad situations. At funerals, we tend to cry for a minute, and laugh for ten. It's the best medicine I know, and something I value.

I was so grateful for read this interview. So thank you, Jan, and thank you, Caryn. You're both incredible women, and I'm thankful to "know" you.

Jan October 4, 2009 11:57 AM  

Jannie,
Tis true that as we share our stories we heal and grow into truer versions of ourselves. I'm with the two of you about looking at the ceiling. It's amazing how well that little technique works!

Dawn,
As a massage therapist, I can only imagine how often throughout your day you advise people to engage in better self-care. ;-) I appreciate your words: your life is your journey, and if you don't direct it, who will. Amen.

Megan,
Yes, this body is gift, though it gives us fits now and then. It is all about cultivating a kinder relationship with it. And humor, oh, yes. What a blessing that you have a family that cultivates that too!

Annie October 4, 2009 10:55 PM  

That was a beautiful interview.
Such wise and true words. Thank you
Caryn, I am glad you are well now and thank you Jan for sharing Caryn with us.